Tarek Fatah has already targeted multiculturalism, saying "everyone wanted to protect multiculturalism — not the lives of these young women" and that "Muslims consider women the possession of men". Given that Fatah and the MCC enjoy the ear of the Conservatives, it was no surprise to see Rona Ambrose, Minister for Status of Women, announce "the Shafia trial was a wake-up call to a lot of people that thought honour-motivated violence doesn't exist in Canada".
So here are some facts about honour killing and Canada.
- Since 2002, there has been 13 cases of "Honour" killings in the whole of Canada.
13 murders. 10 years.
To put that into perspective, in 2011 the city of Toronto had 45 homicides (down from 60 in 2010). By March of 2012, already 20 people will have lost their lives to murder.
To recap, more black young men will lose their lives this year in the streets of Toronto than women who will die due to honour killing in the last ten years in the WHOLE country. - Do you think it's only Muslims who have an "Honour" Killing problem? According to a poll done by the BBC’s Asian network, 1 in 10 of the 500 Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and Muslims surveyed said they would condone any murder of someone who threatened their family’s honor. So it doesn't matter if you are a Christian or a Muslim, the number of people in your community that condones "honour" killing is the same.
And you think it's an Eastern problem? The survey was done in Britain. So to recap, Christians in Britain have an "Honour" killing problem, just like Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus. - Women are killed only in an "honour" killing.
Think again. In 2010 in Canada, there were 89 victims of homicide by an intimate partner, with common-law spouses accounted for 45% of homicides committed by an intimate partner, followed by legal spouses and dating partners, both at 28%.
To recap, the guy you are casually dating has a higher chance of killing you than your father in an "honour" killing case. Even if you are Muslim. Especially if you are Muslim.
Honour killing is a horrible crime. It is a dastardly and cowardly act.
However, it is NOT an epidemic in Canada.
It is NOT even the most serious crime against women in Canada.
It is HARDLY on the radar when cold hard statistics are taken into account considering crime in Canada.
Worldwide, it is not focused or prevalent in the Muslim community.
I am really sorry about those Shafia girls - but seriously, stop blaming me or my community for something one man did.
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The reason why muslims are getting so much attention in honor killings is that 91% of honor killings in the world are done by muslims.
http://www.meforum.org/2646/worldwide-trends-in-honor-killings
Don't shoot the messenger. I am just stating facts. This is no different from police in north american more likely to suspect blacks because they have a disproportionate number of them in jails.
"Worldwide, it is not focused or prevalent in the Muslim community."
Worldwide 91% of honor killings is done by muslims.
http://www.meforum.org/2646/worldwide-trends-in-honor-killings
@Anon, not only did you not refute any of my statements, you chose to support your erroneous views from a dubious source.
I went to your source and this is what I found in their "About" page.
The Forum sees the region — with its profusion of dictatorships, radical ideologies, existential conflicts, border disagreements ... weapons of mass destruction — as a major source of problems for the United States.
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U.S. interests in the Middle East include fighting radical Islam
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monitoring the advance of Islamism in Turkey
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Domestically, the Forum combats lawful Islamism
Therefore, a statement from such an anti-Muslim web page blaming Muslims for honour killing is not only expected, but should be completely disregarded for its obvious bias.
Whereas my sources are the Vancouver Sun (a right-leaning newspaper), the CTV (another "Conservative" newspaper), the Toronto Star (a left leaning national newspaper), the Toronto Sun, the BBC, and Statistics Canada, all completely reputable sources.
"Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe." Quran 2:6
Ok same stats reported in Telegraph newspaper of UK. Is that reputed enough for you.
http://my.telegraph.co.uk/thereturnofgl/grumpylarry/5991/muslims-commit-91-percent-of-honor-killings-worldwide-2/
Even though they have quoted the same source, it is still a reputed newspaper. I would rather trust them than you.
You are just clutching to the last straw.
You still have not refuted any of the points in the original post, nor have your brought any unique perspective on it. You are simply regurgitating false facts from a dubious source.
No one is asking you to trust me. I just reported facts from Statistics Canada as well as half a dozen other sources. To recap for you, since you don't seem to get it:
1. There are 13 so-called "honour killings" in Canada in the last ten years. Hardly an epidemic. More black young men will lose their lives this year in the streets of Toronto than women who will die due to honour killing in the last ten years in the WHOLE country.
2. As per the BBC, 1 in 10 of the 500 British Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and Muslims surveyed said they would condone any murder of someone who threatened their family’s honor.
3. In Canada there were 89 women killed by their partners (immediate family) last year.
Those are the facts that you cannot argue with.
Honour killing is a horrible crime. It is a dastardly and cowardly act.
However, it is NOT an epidemic in Canada.
It is NOT even the most serious crime against women in Canada.
It is HARDLY on the radar when cold hard statistics are taken into account considering crime in Canada.
Worldwide, it is not focused or prevalent in the Muslim community.
IMHO the real danger of honour killing is not the lost of lives of innocent people but a culture of intimidation. It is when a father can tell his daughter "do as I say or I'll make sure you die horribly as that kid next door". With one girl or boy killed probably many more will be intimidated to give up their rights as free individuals.
You may want to listen to the Imam of Islamic Foundation, Toronto (one of the city's largest mosques) talk on domestic violence - it's about 20 minutes long.
http://www.justin.tv/iftlive/b/302166361
"It is NOT even the most serious crime against women in Canada."...
That is the only part of your post that I don't understand.
How is murder not the most serious crime committed against women?
Arina, "honor killing" isn't the most serious crime against women. Murder by a common law partner (45% of all homicides) is.
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