tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post7260322900330141968..comments2024-03-25T01:20:22.817-04:00Comments on a bengali in TO: The Prophet's Challengemezbahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16450639860657867772noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-38838139578593499882007-09-11T10:58:00.000-04:002007-09-11T10:58:00.000-04:00MM: in some of these countries the wage to be paid...MM: in some of these countries the wage to be paid to the labourers toiling in the hot sun is $4 PER DAY, and yet many are not paid for months.<BR/><BR/>Anon: It's also sad that we (the West) supports one such despotic power (I don't need to mention names) while ranting against another.mezbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16450639860657867772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-12900453784397289192007-09-11T03:06:00.000-04:002007-09-11T03:06:00.000-04:00its funny how women are always the ones who have t...its funny how women are always the ones who have to be 'fixed' and shown how to properly practice their religion. if a woman doesnt wear a scarf or hijab then there must be something wrong with her, she just must not have Islam in her 'heart'! what a load of bs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-63326120591087121132007-05-07T07:04:00.000-04:002007-05-07T07:04:00.000-04:00To Hayder,A pretty strong myth among many Muslims ...To Hayder,<BR/><BR/>A pretty strong myth among many Muslims is that Saudi Arabia is the safest place on earth because of its laws. <BR/><BR/>In reality, there are non-Muslim countries safer than Saudi, and also in Saudi Sharia, stealing a gold watch (which of course is bad), is much worse than not paying employees and using the money to indulge in luxuries. The latter "criminal" will never be punished by police, as eh is "Saudi" while his employees are non-Arabs.<BR/><BR/>MMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-56408409036437578372007-05-03T10:41:00.000-04:002007-05-03T10:41:00.000-04:00Hayder: The Iranian government does not force peop...Hayder: <I>The Iranian government does not force people to act in a certain way within their homes.</I><BR/><BR/>I guess if I put a poster on a street in Tehran announcing a grand mixed-gender clothing optional party in my apartment in Tehran I won't get a visit from the religious police. <BR/><BR/><I>It even says in the Quran, "live by the law of your land".</I> <BR/><BR/>Please give the reference, cause according to the law of <I>my</I> land I am allowed to premarital sex.<BR/><BR/><I>Look at Saudi Arabia. If you steal, your hands are cut off - hence, nobody steals.</I> <BR/><BR/>Then I am sure we don't need police in Saudi Arabia then. Because, you know, <A HREF="http://www.nationmaster.com/country/sa-saudi-arabia/cri-crime" REL="nofollow">no body steals</A>. <BR/><BR/><I>because the Prophet never carried out such extreme actions,</I><BR/><BR/>The prophet DID carry out punishments such as death punishment, chopping off of hands, and so on. However, he DID NOT punish anyone for not wearing the proper scarf. <BR/>Or having long hair. <BR/>Or not going for prayers on time.<BR/>Which is all what the point of the post was.<BR/><BR/><I>If the government of Iran was not acting strict, there would be no difference between the people of Iran and any country in the West - fully modernised, no beards, no hijaabs - going back to the days of the Shah Of Iran - leading to haraam temptations arising on the part of men and women.</I><BR/><BR/>Ya, don't follow the evil west and their minimum wage laws, human rights and worker safety laws, equal treatment of men and women, equal rights for men and women, education and healthcare, feeding the hungry, taking care of the old and disabled, and running welfare programs for the poor. Those are so Un-Islamic, right?<BR/><BR/>Simika: Thanx.mezbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16450639860657867772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-66666215605776390602007-05-02T17:17:00.000-04:002007-05-02T17:17:00.000-04:00nice :)nice :)F.S.Kabirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15997563273808953537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-60535502683857098232007-05-02T06:53:00.000-04:002007-05-02T06:53:00.000-04:00The Iranian government does not force people to ac...The Iranian government does not force people to act in a certain way within their homes. These laws and regulations are in place when in the public only. It even says in the Quran, "live by the law of your land". Now if you disobey the law of your land, you are going to face the consequences.<BR/><BR/>Look at Saudi Arabia. If you steal, your hands are cut off - hence, nobody steals. Now the consequence for stealing is one which could be questionned, because the Prophet never carried out such extreme actions, but nobody says anything about that.<BR/><BR/>If the government of Iran was not acting strict, there would be no difference between the people of Iran and any country in the West - fully modernised, no beards, no hijaabs - going back to the days of the Shah Of Iran - leading to haraam temptations arising on the part of men and women.<BR/><BR/>Good job Iran. Keep it up. Other countries should follow this example!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-76639177770053154832007-05-01T20:09:00.000-04:002007-05-01T20:09:00.000-04:00Sumera, the more they force people the more the pe...Sumera, the more they force people the more the people will run away from Islam. This is the reality for students from an Islamic school. It's true in that situation and it will be true for Iran. When that government falls Iranians will have the biggest debauchery of a party.mezbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16450639860657867772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-20584844973249684032007-05-01T20:08:00.000-04:002007-05-01T20:08:00.000-04:00Young Muslimah, I don't get your comments delivere...Young Muslimah, I don't get your comments delivered to my mail for some reason - that's how I approve comments, I don't login to blogger unless I want to post. So I didn't see any of your comments until today.<BR/><BR/>Yes, I agree every society has the right to set a basic standard of decency. But like you (I think) I don't agree with the Iranian government. When the government abandons its main policy of being <I>for</I> the people, <I>of</I> the people or <I>by</I> the people, then it's no different from being a tyrant. If Iranian government was truly Islamic, they wouldn't worry about what the women were wearing and get down to the business of making sure the living standards went up.mezbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16450639860657867772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-66061610004632844852007-05-01T17:11:00.000-04:002007-05-01T17:11:00.000-04:00i'm sorry, were my comments offending?*confused*i'm sorry, were my comments offending?*confused*youngMuslimahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07102054502431934540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-87918958833790634452007-05-01T12:16:00.000-04:002007-05-01T12:16:00.000-04:00Agree with you Mezba. And these leaders? They thin...Agree with you Mezba. And these leaders? They think they are aiding in implementing love of Islam in peoples hearts by beating them if they dont comply with dress regulations!<BR/><BR/>Ironic isnt it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-84606095499406927502007-05-01T10:27:00.000-04:002007-05-01T10:27:00.000-04:00Ruby, thanx.Anon, while I agree that I don't know ...Ruby, thanx.<BR/><BR/>Anon, while I agree that I don't know much about Iranian culture, however forcing a dress code and regulating Islam like the draconian way this government is doing tells me more about their failure as a government than anything else.<BR/><BR/>Samiha, thank you.<BR/><BR/>Anisa, thanx. Nice to see you back.<BR/><BR/>Aisha, there there now sis. Don't cry! It will spoil the make up and you would have to go to <I>that</I> spa again! lol j/k thanx for the comments.<BR/><BR/>a muslim, and your point being ...?mezbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16450639860657867772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-22532865530077208502007-05-01T06:02:00.000-04:002007-05-01T06:02:00.000-04:00Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri:The Prophet said, "Th...Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri:<BR/>The Prophet said, "There will emerge from the East some people who will recite the Qur'an but it will not exceed their throats and who will go out of (renounce) the religion (Islam) as an arrow passes through the game, and they will never come back to it unless the arrow, comes back to the middle of the bow (by itself) (i.e., impossible). The people asked, "What will their signs be?" He said, "Their sign will be the habit of shaving (of their beards). (Fateh Al-Bari, Page 322, Vol. 17th)<BR/>Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 9, Book 93, Number 651Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-91610370714531748262007-05-01T00:40:00.000-04:002007-05-01T00:40:00.000-04:00Well, you've gone and done it now... you've made m...Well, you've gone and done it now... you've made me cry.... *Sigh* Every word you said is true... <BR/><BR/>I love Islam... my issue is with Muslims...Aishahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00756390674173743871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-54360767974592766832007-04-30T15:01:00.000-04:002007-04-30T15:01:00.000-04:00you have brought tears to my eyes with your eloque...you have brought tears to my eyes with your eloquence. i 100% agree with you. thank you for this post!!!Anisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00256551181425405156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-36539110701821977492007-04-30T07:48:00.000-04:002007-04-30T07:48:00.000-04:00I forgot to mention! Forcing people to wear a 'pro...I forgot to mention! Forcing people to wear a 'proper hijab' doesn't help.<BR/>In India, you can see Iranian girls in short belly revealing trousers and tight tops..they can't wear them in their motherland..it's almost like being a hypocrite.youngMuslimahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07102054502431934540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-89385600478283112382007-04-30T05:08:00.000-04:002007-04-30T05:08:00.000-04:00mezba, I think anon's got a point..I don't agree w...mezba, I think anon's got a point..<BR/><BR/>I don't agree w/ the way the govt's handling the situation.<BR/>Being born and raised in a 'muslim' country, I've learned that people tend to take Islam for granted..they see it everywhere, don't have to struggle to live their life in accordance to the Qur'an/hadith/sunnah.<BR/><BR/>I've family living in the west, and most of them are better than many people here any day!youngMuslimahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07102054502431934540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-60366829736714931252007-04-30T03:05:00.000-04:002007-04-30T03:05:00.000-04:00Nice Post...Congrats Mezba bhaia :)Nice Post...Congrats Mezba bhaia :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-16513823329699537262007-04-29T16:04:00.000-04:002007-04-29T16:04:00.000-04:00as an iranian i feel compeled to comment. whilst i...as an iranian i feel compeled to comment. <BR/><BR/>whilst i wholeheartedly agree with your post mezba, there are many things about iran and iranians that you just do not understand and which are too complicated to explain here. <BR/><BR/>although i absolutely abhore forced coverings, you must go to iran and see for yourself the way these girls dress. in iran and many arab countries, men are to put it nicely absolute perverts. <BR/>i have seen girls/women in short coats so tight you can make out their underwear; make up so thick u can poke yr fingers in; and i wont move onto hair styles. tehran has the highest incidence of nose jobs in the world. u wont get arrested for showing your 'bangs'. but u will if u dress like your having a go at the oldest profession in the world<BR/><BR/>whilst i dont agree with the governments stance, i definetly dont agree with these girls either. their intentions for dressing this way are more than clear. iran is not miami. we have had a hisory of first zorastrianism and then islam. both single god worshiping religions. we have culture. we have 'shame'. ppl there are different to the west.<BR/>when in rome..<BR/><BR/>and the most saddening thing is that if iran lifted the 'covering requirements' tomorrow- they would have chaos on their hands -a product of their own doings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-7257931955297476132007-04-29T13:57:00.000-04:002007-04-29T13:57:00.000-04:00bravo mezba bravo! well said!bravo mezba bravo! well said!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-17601420756731960212007-04-29T13:34:00.000-04:002007-04-29T13:34:00.000-04:00Anon: people were never killed for insulting the P...Anon: people were never killed for insulting the Prophet - that is a false propaganda used by those against Islam or by those who wish to stifle democratic right of freedom of speech.<BR/><BR/>Many a times the Jews in Medina used to make fun of the Muslims or the Prophet. Once when the verse was revealed the gist of which was about "whosoever giving a loan to Allah will have done a good business" when Allah was referring to Muslims donating to the mosque and to the state - the Jews were the first to make fun of it. So these are citizens of a state making fun of the Quran, of the Prophet, of our God. Did our Prophet do anything? No.<BR/><BR/>The Jewess who poisoned him. Nothing. The lady who put thorns in his path. Nothing.<BR/><BR/>All actions were taken against those who uttered a physical threat of harm against the Prophet. Even today it is illegal to threaten the President or Prime Minister of any Western country with physical harm.<BR/><BR/>If you have more cases you wish to discuss you can comment, but I won't reply if you are still under 'anon'. I need a name!<BR/><BR/>Youngmuslimah: it is funny that women are being punished because 'men can't control their lusts'. It is insulting to us men as well - treating us as if we are merely hormone driven animals with zero control over our actions. I have lived for over a decade in the west in the middle of all temptations and have been fine, thank you very much.<BR/><BR/>Suroor: thanx.<BR/><BR/>Fathima:<BR/><BR/><I>First of all, back when the Prophet SAW was alive the women did not dress the way the women of today dress they all wore abaya like dresses and covered their hair, even the christian and jewish women covered their hair at that time. The same for the men wearing beards believing men and non-believing men wore beards. Their personal appearance was modest and simple, only the rich and pompous wore the expensive colorful dresses(even then their dresses were not revealing)</I> <BR/><BR/>You might be mistaken in some ways here. Those days were the Day of Ignorance where men and women went around the Kabah naked. References are extensive. Shame was absent and men and women were equally 'devious' as they are today.<BR/><BR/><I>when the Prophet SAW said something the muslims immediately obeyed, no questions asked.</I><BR/><BR/>true in the religious sense, not true otherwise. Many muslims opposed his battle plans for Badr, Umar was unhappy at the Hudaibiya treaty and so on.<BR/><BR/>When I wrote this I am not arguing about hijab or beard or anything. I just want the freedom to practice MY religion MY way. If I am wrong so be it. Who is the government of Iran to decide my hijab is wrong? The Prophet never bothered himself with any such moral or religious policing. He led by example.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Anon: yes.<BR/><BR/>Single Muslimah: yup. They failed in their main priorities (the government should govern and that means supplying daily necessities of life to people).<BR/><BR/>Bfob: I will discuss the Turkish article sometime hopefully but you can read <A HREF="http://eteraz.org/story/2007/4/25/02615/9575" REL="nofollow">this</A>.<BR/><BR/>It seems the Islamic government of Turkey is actually doing things <I>right</I> but since it's "Islamic" the West does not want it to succeed and magnifies any mistake it makes into a huge deal.<BR/><BR/>Fathima: that's what I am saying. Nothing can be forced. The government should just do its primary duty.mezbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16450639860657867772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-24875102487979698042007-04-29T12:52:00.000-04:002007-04-29T12:52:00.000-04:00I totally agree that you can not force a person to...I totally agree that you can not force a person to grow a beard,etc. I just wish people would start talking about the importance of following the way of the prophet SAW In the quran it says success lies in following the quran and sunnah.By doing this Insha Allah Allah will open our hearts and there would be more understanding. By keeping quiet, and just saying don't force anyone, makes it look like its okay, when it's not. I was born and raised in America, I did not cover till I was in my early 20's. Due to lack of knowledge and ignorance.. I didn't realize it was mandatory, of course I didn't do it right away, but in time my heart opened up and I saw the beauty of it all. Allah commands us do obey him because he loves us so much and if we obey him we are protecting ourselves from the bad .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-79825648745576116362007-04-29T11:41:00.000-04:002007-04-29T11:41:00.000-04:00Completely agree! BTW, right now there's a link to...Completely agree! BTW, right now there's a link to a news article on Yahoo titled, "Turkish protesters rally against Islamic-rooted government". <BR/><BR/>For some reason I always notice these types of titles that are so negative towards Islam.... *sighThe Bengali Fobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15923919818776172992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-31791940283393098032007-04-29T09:16:00.000-04:002007-04-29T09:16:00.000-04:00Isn't it funny and sad how pple start JUDGING othe...Isn't it funny and sad how pple start JUDGING other human beings when at the end, all of us are to be judged. It is true that some pple are *pushing it*(going overboard on both sides),but who are we to judge, I believe that everyone has their own faults. So, before we point our fingers,we should all fix our own problems(to the pple implementing rules which they themselves do not follow,ie the leaders). sfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-2575793673582560742007-04-29T00:42:00.000-04:002007-04-29T00:42:00.000-04:00Great post. I agree with you 100%. Their prioritie...Great post. I agree with you 100%. Their priorities are so misplaced.singlemuslimahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00293680404883720048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-35642990844167268242007-04-29T00:17:00.000-04:002007-04-29T00:17:00.000-04:00Fathima, I believe Mezba is reminding us that noth...Fathima, I believe Mezba is reminding us that nothing can be forced. You can not force a person to grow a beard, growing a beard does not make you any more religious than the next person. A gentle reminder that Islam is a very simple religion to follow and that we should not make it harder than it is, is quite beautiful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com