tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post6042041384739258010..comments2024-03-25T01:20:22.817-04:00Comments on a bengali in TO: Lessons from Gaza 2008mezbahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16450639860657867772noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-91549063303499094292009-02-01T13:57:00.000-05:002009-02-01T13:57:00.000-05:00Iftekhar: I just saw the news and it seems they ar...<B>Iftekhar</B>: I just saw the news and it seems they are fighting again.mezbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16450639860657867772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-66194286210306985612009-01-28T04:42:00.000-05:002009-01-28T04:42:00.000-05:00From what I read, the ceasefire was allowed to exp...From what I read, the ceasefire was allowed to expire, and hostilities began only after it was no longer legally binding. But I'm sure Jimmy Carter knows a lot more than me.<BR/><BR/>That being said, Hamas isn't guilt-less, they did fire rockets onto Israeli settlements and illegally killed Israelis (even if they had valid grievances). But the reality is that the operation was being planned for months ahead of time by the Israelis.<BR/><BR/>Asking for a 20-year peace treaty is assuming Israel wants peace. Some elements within the Israeli government actually wants hostilities to continue, and the US has (under Bush) done nothing to override those interests. So it really isn't as simple as asking for peace.<BR/><BR/>There's no point asking someone for something they simply won't give.<BR/><BR/>And Suroor's point is over-simplistic. Hindsight, as they say, is 20-20.<BR/><BR/>And bunching the "Arabs" together in "Arab pride" is as wrong as bunching all "Muslims" together in "backwardness," I hope you will agree. Arabs are no more a monolithic entity as Muslims are, and we really need to have a more granular resolution than that to appreciate this problem.Iftyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11763624068037259536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-21071399563675158492009-01-26T23:41:00.000-05:002009-01-26T23:41:00.000-05:00Tee Dimensionist: thanks for reading.Geeki: I woul...<B>Tee Dimensionist</B>: thanks for reading.<BR/><BR/><B>Geeki</B>: I would like to think it's possible but pragmatic enough to realise this is some conflict that has been going on since, er, a while.<BR/><BR/><B>Iftekhar</B>: Not too many people know it was Israel that broke the ceasefire. As always, their blockade (aided by Egypt) and settlement activity goes unreported and is the instigation for Palestenian action. Jimmy Carter said so himself on the Jon Stewart show tonight.<BR/><BR/><B>Suroor</B>: we can always dream and pray, can we not?<BR/><BR/><B>Behbood</B>: you need to see the investors in Gulf countries - especially UAE. Many of them have ties to Israel (for example the Atlantis hotel).<BR/><BR/><B>Saffiyah</B>: atleast the other leaders left their countries better off. Bhutto? :-D<BR/><BR/><B>Anisa</B>: you are welcome.<BR/><BR/><B>Anon (2:43)</B>: will take a look at the clip later.<BR/><BR/><B>Mystic</B>: thank you for reading and commentating. It's so common sense but unfortunately the leaders won't see sense.<BR/><BR/><B>Anonymous (1:55)</B>: Tambi Dude, is it? Boy, you are still here? I would have answered you but Yawar got to it.<BR/><BR/><B>Yawar</B>: thanks for answering him. I don't think Anon (or Tambi Dude) is interested in Islam or peace for that matter. Isn't it interesting that the ones who criticise Islam for being a warmonging<BR/>religion are the ones always ready to start a war?mezbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16450639860657867772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-86631697785097367412009-01-26T19:25:00.000-05:002009-01-26T19:25:00.000-05:00@Anonymous 6:32Here you go. Now, I know what you a...@Anonymous 6:32<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://infad.usim.edu.my/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=6630" REL="nofollow">Here</A> you go. Now, I know what you are going to say to this. It's unreliable, therefore it must be false! Well, the point still stands, the Ummah has always been at the height of its power wherever and whenever it has placed the most emphasis on education. It's simple really. You don't even need to be Muslim to realise that education is a better path to the improvement of our condition than waging war.Yawarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13741563704441932843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-55411084066894382232009-01-25T18:32:00.000-05:002009-01-25T18:32:00.000-05:00Yawar,"You've misunderstood what Mezba is saying. ...Yawar,<BR/><BR/>"You've misunderstood what Mezba is saying. Just to be clear: '"Ink of a scholar is holier than the blood of a martyr" said the Prophet.' This means this was said by the Prophet. Not in the Quran."<BR/><BR/>whatever Prophert said is documented in Hadees. Please quote the book, chapter and verse where he said this. thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-5206117439454115522009-01-24T21:19:00.000-05:002009-01-24T21:19:00.000-05:00@Anonymous 1:55You've misunderstood what Mezba is ...@Anonymous 1:55<BR/><BR/>You've misunderstood what Mezba is saying. Just to be clear: '"Ink of a scholar is holier than the blood of a martyr" said the Prophet.' This means this was said by the Prophet. Not in the Quran.Yawarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13741563704441932843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-34417102670266445692009-01-24T13:55:00.000-05:002009-01-24T13:55:00.000-05:00"Read" is the first revealed word of Quran. "Ink o..."Read" is the first revealed word of Quran. "Ink of a scholar is holier than the blood of a martyr" said the Prophet. "<BR/><BR/>This is never said in Quran. It is a fabricated verse. Prove me wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-14434508002340538092009-01-22T17:40:00.000-05:002009-01-22T17:40:00.000-05:00Classic post. 100% marks. Best post I read during ...Classic post. 100% marks. Best post I read during whole episode.<BR/><BR/>In urdu we say: "Cha gaya bhai" (you conquered)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-77989496206448739542009-01-22T14:43:00.000-05:002009-01-22T14:43:00.000-05:00all but your first bullet point. Maybe this youtub...all but your first bullet point. Maybe this youtube clip will answer your own question:<BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SILJxPTqjAM<BR/><BR/>-Pali-supporterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-8791628596940769262009-01-22T10:21:00.000-05:002009-01-22T10:21:00.000-05:00Amazing post. Thank you so much for this...really...Amazing post. Thank you so much for this...really a lot to think about.Anisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00256551181425405156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-57156373584230522372009-01-21T23:43:00.000-05:002009-01-21T23:43:00.000-05:00"they are often more militaristic, aggressive and ..."they are often more militaristic, aggressive and eager to project power.<BR/><BR/>I do not think Benazir Bhutto is an "exception." She, who declared herself "chairperson for life" of her political party.Safiyyahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07670659439981133346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-26109178456549815192009-01-21T08:30:00.000-05:002009-01-21T08:30:00.000-05:00your third point on Israelis needing oil was bulls...your third point on Israelis needing oil was bulls-eye. <BR/><BR/>/BehboodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-14068935576378404262009-01-21T01:51:00.000-05:002009-01-21T01:51:00.000-05:00If Palestinians had accepted Israeli occupation ev...If Palestinians had accepted Israeli occupation even 10 years after it happened today Palestinians would have been in clear majority (we know how they breed) and democracy would have ensured a Palestinian leader. But did that happen?<BR/><BR/>So a 20-year peace treaty sounds appealing to people like you and me, Mezba who have seen massacres and their results in India and Bangladesh, but Arab pride will never let that happen and all this will continue forever and ever.<BR/><BR/>I love this post. It is precise and says exactly what should be said. <BR/><BR/>I have banned myself from thinking about the whole issue.Suroorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07151400258859526990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-91868177616573919692009-01-20T23:23:00.000-05:002009-01-20T23:23:00.000-05:00Well-met.But I think it's really not as simple as ...Well-met.<BR/><BR/>But I think it's really not as simple as telling the Palestinians to go to Israel and ask for a 20-year peace treaty.<BR/><BR/>Hamas honoured the ceasefire until it expired. They asked to renegotiate the terms of the ceasefire, but received no favourable response and so did what they do best: fire rockets into Israel.<BR/><BR/>And let's not forget, Israel was very "flexible" with its end of the bargain. Blockading supplies of food, medicine, spare parts for their sewage treatment plant, fuel oil to fuel the homes of people in the Strip. Gazans were living on "load shedding" for no apparent reason.<BR/><BR/>They were doing it to discredit Hamas. Dissuade people from supporting them, although they were democratically elected. Show them how the Palestinians on the West Bank are having a swell time.<BR/><BR/>So it's not really as simple as asking for a 20-year peace treaty.<BR/><BR/>Your points, however, are correct. The OIC countries read like a list of the poorest countries in the world.Iftyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11763624068037259536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-84222559494590158902009-01-20T21:43:00.000-05:002009-01-20T21:43:00.000-05:00I love the part about "Read" -so true. I wish more...I love the part about "Read" -so true. I wish more Muslims overseas (and here) would see the value of a good education. Excellent post!'liyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09682312785305176809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-77768699365351003122009-01-20T21:11:00.000-05:002009-01-20T21:11:00.000-05:00sigh, I just hope and pray things improve.sigh, I just hope and pray things improve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600258.post-4158211752012458432009-01-20T18:34:00.000-05:002009-01-20T18:34:00.000-05:00Best thing I've read on this issue. Thank you, rea...Best thing I've read on this issue. Thank you, really, a whole lot.tee dimensionisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07741494987565391224noreply@blogger.com